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ZoeL's picture

I'm just curious why there are only officers and no crew in the science department?

mattm's picture

It's assumed that the science team wil be made up of officers or warrant officers, given the qualifications needed for these roles. Technical support for science systems (sensors) will be provided by a core systems team from engineering.

Does this assumption sound right?

Alfisti's picture

I think six hour watches are a good idea, as having the crew rotate through the watches means that no-one gets lumpped with a "bad" watch week in and week out. It also means everyone has a chance to interract with those still working on a day/night rhythm (eg. writers or the ship's NAAFI equivalient). Out of curiosity is there likely to be a defence watch (sort of "in-between" watch setup - I believe the RN runs 12 hour watches in this state with half the crew closed up for action and half the crew resting) which would allow the vessel to maintain a state of heightened readiness of an extended period of time?

mattm's picture

You're right, how to deal with extended alert conditions needs more thinking. Current alert conditions assume the most senior and qualified crew take over - for extended periods it would be better to get a mix of experience and seniority, rather than have all of the senior people roll off watch for rest.

Alfisti's picture

I think it probably depends on the alert condition, as Defence Stations would probably still be a step back from action stations. Assuming then that the bridge would require at least two or three personnel at each station when fully manned (eg. Tactical Officer and an Assistant TO), you could possibly split it up so that instead of standing six hours in eighteen, people were standing six hours in twelve whilst on defence watches, then pair of the ATO with whoever normally stands the third watch, and the TO with, say, a gunner's mate or other experienced rating (this actually becomes more difficult to balance without at least a few midshipmen to scatter around the place). Six hours on and six hours off would obviously be hard on the crew (or, take the RN approach and extend it to twelve hours on and twelve off - and bear in mind navy vessels would keep that up for months on end when in an active war zone), but it at least allows some rest whilst keeping the ship in a heightened state of alert.

mattm's picture

Thinking on mess operations (meal service) is to have this managed continuously synched to the watch system. Meals would be served for a period half an hour before and half an hour after the watch transition. This would allow those coming onto shift to get something to eat before they start duty and those coming off to get something to eat when they finish their watch.

Current thinking is that there will be a common dining area for the entire crew - no separate wardroom for officers. It's recognised that officers will need a dedicated area where they can freely discuss vessel and crew management issues - this will take the form of a common office/working space.

Alfisti's picture

I think that's probably the way to operate it in terms of working around the watches. Question is: how do you organise the midnight meal? Presumably breakfast, lunch, and dinner would all be catered for per normal, which is three watch transitions, but what about number four. Do you a) run it like lunch, which would mean essentially needing to run a watch system as well? Or do you b) basically make it a cold meal of sandwiches etc. prepared in advance, which would mean being able to reduce crew size (and thus bunking requirements, consumables requirements, etc) by only having a single shift (maximum two) in the galley?

When thinking on that it is probably worth considering three things: first is thatthe watch system is set up so that no-one is going to be coming off-watch to sandwiches day in and day out. The second is that the kitchen crew, even if it was on watches, wouldn't be able to follow exactly to the same rotation as the rest of the ship anyway as the last thing you want to be doing is trying to switch over personnel in the middle of service. The third is that a lot of kitchen work, particularly during service, is basically run on muscle memory (which is why back of house seriously considers stabbing anyone who wants modifications to their order as it throws that off. Seriously, just pick the tomatoes off), so its one of the few places it is probably better to let people work the same slots day in day out.

As you can probably guess my leaning would be toward running a reduced number of pannels in the galley. Say, two eight hour watches, handing over after lunch service; which gives the watch doing breakfast an hour to get in and cook, and those doing dinner service two hours after to clean up and do prep for breakfast the next "day".